The Cult of "The Secret"

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Man... this reminds me why I hate Oprah.
I actually watch the whole DVD (someone posted it on Google Video last year) and I think there is a great message in it about motivating yourself by changing how view our life right now. I enjoyed it very much I have the DVD as well right now. They showcase it also on Ellen and Larry King Live besides Oprah, if even couple of people can learn something from it and apply it to their life so there is positive change - I am all for it.
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yeah i saw this show the other day and it creeped me out.

i think whatever might be in the dvd, the idea that by buying a dvd we will get the "the secret" to living is messed up..."good" message or not.

still. i guess it all fits in with oprah's mumbo jumbo.

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Well, hey, you can't get filthy rich if you just give away your mumbo jumbo. (And despite her encouragements to read, I still can't like Oprah. Maybe because I haven't been sufficiently brainwashed yet.)
people sell things all the time that should be free. there are tons and tons of "Christian" motivational speaks and writers and so on... and that goes for any religion or movement. People write and sell books about how to recycle and that IS free knowledge but people still make money off of it. I dont have a problem them making money off of something that should be general knowledge.

if people better themselves because of the things they learn in "the bible" or "the secret" or any other book... so be it.
Addressing Tyson and Fabulous:
Peter Birkenhead's article "Oprah'sUgly Secret" (http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/03/05/the_secret/index.html) elloquently explains why, just because one or two might better themselves by taking all, or part of The Secret to heart, that doesn't make The Secret Cult or positive (or even beguine) thing:

"It would be stupidly dangerous to dismiss Oprah and "The Secret" as silly, or ultimately meaningless. ... If you reach more people than Bill O'Reilly, if you have better name recognition than Nelson Mandela, if the books you endorse sell more than Stephen King's, you should take some responsibility for your effect on the culture. The most powerful woman in the world is taking advantage of people who are desperate for meaning, by passionately championing a product that mocks the very idea of a meaningful life."


Wow, Martin, I think you just hit on the previously intangible reason for my dislike of Oprah. She is so well-known and so many people look up to her, and yet she is perpetually misleading people about the reality of life. Her magazine certainly promotes the fallacy that "if you haven't achieved it, it's because you haven't dreamed it." As though a lack of aspiration/motivation is what keeps so many millions of people in poverty the world over. Like if all the poor people in Bangladesh would just get serious about aspiring to having clean drinking water, pooof! It would happen. Stupid Bangladeshis.

until you've read the book, i think it's not your place to make remarks on it.

and Oprah does an amazing amount of great things for the world.
obviously we wont agree on any of this, but what Negative affect will this book have on the culture. She's not taking advantage of anyone, she's merely incouraging them to be more than what they are right now.

I am not writing from a completely ignorant perspective here. I have now read the book, although I admit I couldn't stomach the movie. If Rhonda Byrne is not taking advantage of anyone why is she changing for this information and becoming very wealthy in the process?

Negative effects include the statements that you make yourself sick, fat or ill simply through your own negative thoughts. That if you wish hard enough you can fix your own eye site or cancer or weight. The flip side of this is that, if you don't cure your own cancer or eye site, if you get aids, or live in poverty, or get sent to a concentration camp, or get mugged, if you can't remain 120lbs and eat anything you want, you alone are responsible for your own downfall.

Negative effects include the fact that success, according to The Secret, is almost completely measured by the size of your bank account. That no emphasis is put on working for, or earning what you want - you just have to visualize that new car, not work for it.

That negative thoughts must be avoided to the extent that followers should not keep informed and watch, listen or read the news for fear that negative images of what is going on in the world might influence their own happiness:

"When I discovered 'The Secret' I made a decision that I would not watch the news or read newspapers anymore, because it did not make me feel good,"

I guess it is OK to not to deal with what is going on in the world if you believe that wars, natural disasters, famines, all things negative are self-inflicted. Those peoples suffering in the world just aren't trying hard enough to think positive thoughts.

The Secret is not harmless because of these messages.
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Anyone who has studied world religion and specifically the monotheistic kind will fully agree that this cult is attempting to whittle a Holy God, creator of the universe, into a magical genie that 1) gives you everything you want, and 2) should you go deep enough, is actually YOU.
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I have listened to "The Secret"audio messages and watched a bit of the video. I think there is really no secret in the secret. Its proponents tell what many people already know, that you are a master of your own destiny. By deciding to be positive and focused, one can be what one wants to be.

However, like some posters above, I have a small problem with the "Law of attraction". Again, there is some element of truth in this "law", but it dangerously hovers near being a cultic message.

At the risk of offending some people, I equally consider Scientology as a cult. I have however read the book on Dianetics by Ron Hubbard, and while I am no pyschologist etc.. I think Hubbard did have a point in some way. The problem is in emphasizing and building on only one aspect of his beliefs to an extent that the original "revelation" becomes harmfully distorted. Cultic. I see the secret heading this dangerous way.

Life is simple, easy. There is no secret to life. All that one can be has already been hard-wired by mother nature (or God) in all of us. And it takes no "secret" to bring it out.
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~ A women in our city; owned a well know "Teaching Spa"and it's=
A women in our community owned a well thought of Day Spa Teaching Institute. She had Ran~ out and purchased a copy of THE SECRET after seeing that promoter of false gurus= OPRAH describing it. This womenDayspaOwner began to live and discuss THE SECRET with everyone. She even decided to ask all the Students at the Spa Institute to WATCH The Movie promoting The Secret. This did not feel comfortable to many there.(huge upset to many & felt cultish& a fraud lie) Then The owner of The Spa got diagnosed with=CANCER! (how could this be? she said - every waking min. she had been prosletizing THE SECRET! She told all friends and family to NEVER ask about this "illness" EVER as The Secret said= SHE "controlled the Unvierse with her mind". Shortly after she =DIED. She had started building a McMansion.(to show THE UNIVERSE who was in charge! And left a devestated husband and two adopted orphans motherless. She elected NO TREATMENT until she collapsed and was air lifted to a hospital. And transferred to Hospice. While at Hospice she insisted they NOT DISCUSS ANY CANCER - and demanded she was getting well like Oprah & Rhonda Bryne SAID! She "woke up=DEAD". - Moral of This Story. GOD. ACTUAL = Triune God is in control of the Universe. His message and Salvation matter. Prayer and God's Word show the way to spiritual Truth= in Scriptures. If THE SECRET actually worked than Oprah & Rhonda Bryne SHOULD be out daily =demonstrating it at Childrens Hospitals to desperate parents and the patients. THEY DO NOT! They blame the VICTIMS! Why? For Money! Rhonda B. - plagarized THE SECRET out of an old con mans book from 1910. Why does she not spend her days helping the sick and dying to RISE UP WITH THEIR MIND? = because it's ALL FAKE!

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